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Me too - I cannot find it on the minedu / tki websites....<div><br></div><div>but then perhaps I have just missed it.</div><div><br></div><div>Shouldn't it be out there in big flashing letters, rather than us having to find it?</div><div><br></div><div>(If it is in either large letters or flashing text, but I have missed it, then accept my humble apologies!)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="">David King</div><div style="">Physics HoD</div><div style="">Christ's College</div><div style="">Private Bag 4900</div><div style="">Christchurch</div><div style="">New Zealand</div><div style="font-size: 12px; "><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><div style="font-size: 12px; "><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span> </div><br><div><div>On 15/11/2008, at 1:55 PM, Jonathan Jaffrey wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">I haven't seen this.</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">I'd be fascinated to have a copy, where can I get one?</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">Jonathan Jaffrey</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">HoD Physics</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">LBC</font></div><br><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">-----Original Message-----</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:phys-teach-talk-bounces@nzip.org.nz">phys-teach-talk-bounces@nzip.org.nz</a></font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">[<a href="mailto:phys-teach-talk-bounces@nzip.org.nz" target="_blank">mailto:phys-teach-talk-bounces@nzip.org.nz</a>] On Behalf Of</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><a href="mailto:phys-teach-talk-request@nzip.org.nz">phys-teach-talk-request@nzip.org.nz</a></font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">Sent: Saturday, 15 November 2008 9:00 a.m.</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; 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"><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "> 1. (Bryden, Francis)</font></div><br><br><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">----------------------------------------------------------------------</font></div><br><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">Message: 1</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:07:34 +1300</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">From: "Bryden, Francis" <<a href="mailto:francis.Bryden@stcuthberts.school.nz">francis.Bryden@stcuthberts.school.nz</a>></font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">To: "'<a href="mailto:Phys-teach-talk@nzip.org.nz">Phys-teach-talk@nzip.org.nz</a>'" <<a href="mailto:Phys-teach-talk@nzip.org.nz">Phys-teach-talk@nzip.org.nz</a>></font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">Message-ID:</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "> </font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><<a href="mailto:6AC36C5F0F8E364CBEC8178DD499F3EF4FAABE0F@stcc-exchange.stcuthberts.local">6AC36C5F0F8E364CBEC8178DD499F3EF4FAABE0F@stcc-exchange.stcuthberts.local</a>></font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "> </font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"</font></div><br><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">Don't know how many people have had a look at the draft of the new matrix</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">for level 1 science.</font></div><br><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">Instead of having Physics (science) and also all the separate physics</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">standards, the proposal is to have only two standards. One internal (4</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">credit) and one external (5 credit)</font></div><br><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">The external is demonstrate an understanding of how physical phenomena</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">impact on everyday life.</font></div><br><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">The internal is demonstrate an understanding of how physics knowledge is</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">used in applications</font></div><br><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">This seems to take away the opportunity we have presently to extend the more</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">able students. We presently have the flexibility to design courses to suit</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">different level students.</font></div><br><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">To me it seems physics is being seriously dumbed down.</font></div><br><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">Apparently the full Human Bio course is being retained because there "is a</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">demand for it"</font></div><br><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">I'd be interested in other people's take on this.</font></div><br><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">If you are concerned, make sure you get to the consultation meetings being</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">organised</font></div><br><br><br><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">................ Francis</font></div><br><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">Francis Bryden</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">HoD Physics</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">St Cuthbert's College</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">122 Market Rd or Box 26 020</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; "><font face="Geneva" size="+0" color="#000000" style="font-family: Geneva; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">Epsom Epsom</font></div><div align="left" style="text-align: left; 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