From andydyson at actrix.co.nz Thu Jun 3 01:34:50 2010 From: andydyson at actrix.co.nz (andydyson at actrix.co.nz) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:34:50 +1200 (NZST) Subject: Physics 2.1 Message-ID: Hi all, Nice to see the 2009 moderator's report has arrived but I have a question relating to the 2008 report which states, for the measurement part of the standard P2.1 five measurements task: "There are still a significant number of teachers who have still not updated their method of grading the measurement aspect of the standard for the latest version of the standard. It is not valid to grade each measurement activity individually. The required evidence must be sought from the whole range of tasks. This will have a significant effect on the abilities of students to fulfil the requirements of the standard." Imagine I have a student who only gets 3 measurements of the 5 in range and with the correct unit. One of these measurements has the wrong number of significant figures to be considered at merit level. But another, out of range (ie wrong), measurement does have the right number of sf. Can this student still progress towards M? For example the correct answer to a recent task was 907 mV. 3sf. A student gave 907 V. 3sf but a tad out of range. Can this student use the 3sf here in a wrong answer to progress towards Merit? On another matter, I noticed that the moderator's newsletter for Science recently had a comment about annotated exemplars but the resources for Science area in NZQA didn't have any annotated exemplars. I queried this with NZQA by 'phone and email and they solved my problem about annotated exemplars BY REMOVING THE COMMENT IN THE MODERATOR'S NEWSLETTER ABOUT ANNOTATED EXEMPLARS! Rather than producing the said annotated exemplars. I sent them another email USING CAPITAL LETTERS. They have not replied. Is the Science moderator known to you? If so, please send them this. Andy Dyson, Kerikeri From andydyson at actrix.co.nz Thu Jun 3 03:19:27 2010 From: andydyson at actrix.co.nz (andydyson at actrix.co.nz) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 22:19:27 +1200 (NZST) Subject: just up on tki Message-ID: <406cb7dc92b5c83a04c804f62f0b28d7.squirrel@my.actrix.co.nz> Hi all Just up on tki http://www.tki.org.nz/e/community/ncea/sciences-lvl1.php draft resources for the new internal assessments for Science. One of the Physics ones will not work. 1.2A looks at current drawn in a parallel circuit with 2, 4 and8 ohm resistors from a power pack. Have you got these resistors? Think 12V and 2ohms and power! Was this one really trialled? Two of the Physics ones are about garbage. 1.2B is entitled "Are Biomags Dangerous?" and attempts to look at the biological effects of magnetic fields. And this is serious Physics in New Zealand? I do hope the rest of the world doesn't hear about this! 1.3B is entitled "Are Cell Phones Dangerous?" and wonders if the radiation from cellphones has a biological effect. And this is Physics? Can we have a Chemistry standard involving fluoride in drinking water? And what about Biology standards about Intelligent Design or vaccines and autism? Why is it only Physics that gets the crank crap stuff? Andy Dyson, Kerikeri From parkerprice at clear.net.nz Thu Jun 3 12:34:51 2010 From: parkerprice at clear.net.nz (Parker-Price) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 07:34:51 +1200 Subject: just up on tki In-Reply-To: <406cb7dc92b5c83a04c804f62f0b28d7.squirrel@my.actrix.co.nz> References: <406cb7dc92b5c83a04c804f62f0b28d7.squirrel@my.actrix.co.nz> Message-ID: Hi Andy, and everybody The good news for you is that you still have a good few months before you have to finalise your tasks. At my school we are having to send final drafts of our teaching and learning materials this term to get them published for 2011, so have been talking about the issues with 'issues' for quite a while. Not that we have any simple solution. The physics 'implications' standards have two very good things going for them: 1. students do physics which is relevant, it is about issues, and we should choose issues that matter to them. For too long we have only justified the physics we have taught because 'you have to do this to get the credits'. Lots of research has shown that people can learn heaps of science if they can see some reason for learning it. 2. teachers don't have the minute details of the content dictated to them. The Big Problem, I agree, is that we could end up doing a sort of wishy-washy project which is little more than cutting and pasting pseudo science from the internet. I believe quite strongly that we should not be doing this, and that if students do that they should not get the standard. We have decided to offer the 'implications' standards but we are also producing learning resources for the externals, so students who don't want /can't do the exams will be able to use materials which teach the basics of waves/electricity/heat. In addition to this they will get materials which help them address the physics relevant to an 'issue'. For example, for the waves implications we are developing materials about noise control (this being the issue). We haven't worked out the details completely, but I think it will most likely be a case study. I hope that good students go into this deeply and take account of a lot of good physics. Bright ones could even go into noise cancellation (well, they explain in on the blurb on the box of the Panasonic headphones I just bought) as well as noise perception and the dB scale. There is no reason not to do some really good physics teaching. My Big Question is - will this standard allow wishy-washy shallow science that isn't anything that any of us would call 'physics' going to get A/M/E as well? Is that standard so vague that this can't be stopped? I would very much like to hear how other teachers propose to deliver good physics to students who are studying for this standard. Please contact me on or off list. for those of you who are going to SciCon, I have a workshop planned for comparing notes about delivering the level 1 matrix. Please come along! cheers Kerry Kerry Parker also at kerry.parker at tekura.school.nz (Te Aho o Te Kura Pounamu, The Correspondence School) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:19 PM Subject: just up on tki > Hi all > > Just up on tki > > http://www.tki.org.nz/e/community/ncea/sciences-lvl1.php > > draft resources for the new internal assessments for Science. > > One of the Physics ones will not work. > > 1.2A looks at current drawn in a parallel circuit with 2, 4 and8 ohm > resistors from a power pack. Have you got these resistors? Think 12V and > 2ohms and power! Was this one really trialled? > > Two of the Physics ones are about garbage. > > 1.2B is entitled "Are Biomags Dangerous?" and attempts to look at the > biological effects of magnetic fields. And this is serious Physics in New > Zealand? I do hope the rest of the world doesn't hear about this! > > 1.3B is entitled "Are Cell Phones Dangerous?" and wonders if the radiation > from cellphones has a biological effect. And this is Physics? > > > Can we have a Chemistry standard involving fluoride in drinking water? > > And what about Biology standards about Intelligent Design or vaccines and > autism? > > Why is it only Physics that gets the crank crap stuff? > > Andy Dyson, > > Kerikeri > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phys-teach-talk mailing list > Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz > http://nzip.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/phys-teach-talk_nzip.org.nz From c.low at rangiruru.school.nz Fri Jun 4 04:39:54 2010 From: c.low at rangiruru.school.nz (Catherine Low) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:39:54 +1200 Subject: just up on tki In-Reply-To: <406cb7dc92b5c83a04c804f62f0b28d7.squirrel@my.actrix.co.nz> References: <406cb7dc92b5c83a04c804f62f0b28d7.squirrel@my.actrix.co.nz> Message-ID: Hi Andy, and all, I don't mind the IDEA of investigating the biological effect of biomags and cellphones - in fact it is a great idea to try to dispel psuedo-scientific claims in the classroom - we want to create scientifically literate and sceptical students, not ones that get caught up with the latest fear mongering. However, as a research NCEA assessment for Level 1, I don't see them being easy topics for the students or teachers, and possibly not the right way to go about tackling such issues. I have read on the internet a little about similar topics, and it isn't easy to separate the rubbish from the science, and I am used to reading scientific articles! So unless the students are well trained in spotting claims based on anedoctal evidence, and picking out good scientific studies from bad, and/or are provided with a small handful of carefully vetted resources, I don't like the chances that the students will come up with the currently accepted scientific viewpoint. And if they conclude from their research something that is not scientifically correct because they read it in enough places, they will be far worse off, understanding wise, than they were when they started the project (even if we do give them NA for it to mark our lack of approval). A lot of work on the teachers part, would be needed to make these examples a constructive learning task. Given that many of these standards will be taught by very busy non specialist physics teachers, it might be a big ask without a lot more guidance. Catherine Low Rangi Ruru Girls' School [ mailto:andydyson at actrix.co.nz ]andydyson at actrix.co.nz writes: Hi all Just up on tki [ http://www.tki.org.nz/e/community/ncea/sciences-lvl1.php ]http://www.tki.org.nz/e/community/ncea/sciences-lvl1.php draft resources for the new internal assessments for Science. One of the Physics ones will not work. 1.2A looks at current drawn in a parallel circuit with 2, 4 and8 ohm resistors from a power pack. Have you got these resistors? Think 12V and 2ohms and power! Was this one really trialled? Two of the Physics ones are about garbage. 1.2B is entitled "Are Biomags Dangerous?" and attempts to look at the biological effects of magnetic fields. And this is serious Physics in New Zealand? I do hope the rest of the world doesn't hear about this! 1.3B is entitled "Are Cell Phones Dangerous?" and wonders if the radiation from cellphones has a biological effect. And this is Physics? Can we have a Chemistry standard involving fluoride in drinking water? And what about Biology standards about Intelligent Design or vaccines and autism? Why is it only Physics that gets the crank crap stuff? Andy Dyson, Kerikeri _______________________________________________ Phys-teach-talk mailing list [ mailto:Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz ]Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz [ http://nzip.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/phys-teach-talk_nzip.org.nz ]http://nzip.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/phys-teach-talk_nzip.org.nz __________ Information from ESET Mail Security, version of virus signature database 5167 (20100602) __________ The message was checked by ESET Mail Security. [ http://www.eset.com ]http://www.eset.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andydyson at actrix.co.nz Sun Jun 6 02:13:35 2010 From: andydyson at actrix.co.nz (andydyson at actrix.co.nz) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:13:35 +1200 (NZST) Subject: Fire Message-ID: <9615696c4f7eb21bcf1f52d5e1c06435.squirrel@my.actrix.co.nz> Hi all, The burned out lab that you saw on the news was the one I have taught in at Kerikeri High School since the start of 2002. We also lost our main prep room and chemical store. A second lab and a couple of classrooms and a long computer room are also badly damaged. The fire brigade asked at 6.30 this morning what was in the chemical store. I reassured them that our radioactive sources were the tiny ones available for school use and comparable to smoke alarms. But we had mercury, a flammable liquids cupboard (which I later found out had exploded!), oxidising agents, acids and bases, flammable solids and poisons. The usual stuff that you would expect in a school chemical store. Our technician was a star. She arrived with a full list of what was there, with quantities, that she had on a flash drive at home. The school records were in the prep room and destroyed. (Hint: take a copy home!) Why did the TV3 news fixate on radioactive materials? I do think there's some sort of phobia! I had brought all this year's NCEA internal assessment stuff home on friday to go through it, along with my laptop and records. But last year's US that I am not using this year (but am/was still due to be moderated on 4 of!) have gone. ALL OF MY EQUIPMENT AND BOOKS HAVE GONE UP IN SMOKE!!! Insurance exists but I don't know yet whether the idea is to replace that lost gear (how much can I remember?) or to equip a new lab for senior Physics from scratch. I hope it's the second option. I'm sure that I have seen lists somewhere of all the gear that it would be sensible to have to teach senior Physics. Can anyone help with such a list as a situation such as this will require answers to be provided for my Principal asap. Anyone been here before and can offer advice? Please reply both to me and the list so everyone can see what is happening. Andy Dyson, HoD Physics, Kerikeri High School. From robcampbell at actrix.co.nz Sun Jun 6 03:17:27 2010 From: robcampbell at actrix.co.nz (Rob Campbell) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:17:27 +1200 Subject: Fire In-Reply-To: <9615696c4f7eb21bcf1f52d5e1c06435.squirrel@my.actrix.co.nz> References: <9615696c4f7eb21bcf1f52d5e1c06435.squirrel@my.actrix.co.nz> Message-ID: <23A07215CC0B4554AB0B688628995E5B@robert972970e8> Hi Andy, What a terrible situation! I recall that Trevor Castle, still at PNBHS I believe, circulated a list of essential physics gear to all schools (early 90's, so maybe a bit dated) He may still have it, or a later version. Good luck with your rebuilding / recovery! Rob Campbell -----Original Message----- From: phys-teach-talk-bounces at nzip.org.nz [mailto:phys-teach-talk-bounces at nzip.org.nz] On Behalf Of andydyson at actrix.co.nz Sent: Sunday, 6 June 2010 9:14 p.m. To: Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz Subject: Fire Hi all, The burned out lab that you saw on the news was the one I have taught in at Kerikeri High School since the start of 2002. We also lost our main prep room and chemical store. A second lab and a couple of classrooms and a long computer room are also badly damaged. The fire brigade asked at 6.30 this morning what was in the chemical store. I reassured them that our radioactive sources were the tiny ones available for school use and comparable to smoke alarms. But we had mercury, a flammable liquids cupboard (which I later found out had exploded!), oxidising agents, acids and bases, flammable solids and poisons. The usual stuff that you would expect in a school chemical store. Our technician was a star. She arrived with a full list of what was there, with quantities, that she had on a flash drive at home. The school records were in the prep room and destroyed. (Hint: take a copy home!) Why did the TV3 news fixate on radioactive materials? I do think there's some sort of phobia! I had brought all this year's NCEA internal assessment stuff home on friday to go through it, along with my laptop and records. But last year's US that I am not using this year (but am/was still due to be moderated on 4 of!) have gone. ALL OF MY EQUIPMENT AND BOOKS HAVE GONE UP IN SMOKE!!! Insurance exists but I don't know yet whether the idea is to replace that lost gear (how much can I remember?) or to equip a new lab for senior Physics from scratch. I hope it's the second option. I'm sure that I have seen lists somewhere of all the gear that it would be sensible to have to teach senior Physics. Can anyone help with such a list as a situation such as this will require answers to be provided for my Principal asap. Anyone been here before and can offer advice? Please reply both to me and the list so everyone can see what is happening. Andy Dyson, HoD Physics, Kerikeri High School. _______________________________________________ Phys-teach-talk mailing list Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz http://nzip.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/phys-teach-talk_nzip.org.nz From dhousden at xtra.co.nz Sun Jun 6 04:10:44 2010 From: dhousden at xtra.co.nz (David Housden) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:10:44 +1200 Subject: Fire In-Reply-To: <9615696c4f7eb21bcf1f52d5e1c06435.squirrel@my.actrix.co.nz> References: <9615696c4f7eb21bcf1f52d5e1c06435.squirrel@my.actrix.co.nz> Message-ID: <000501cb0568$e8dc7210$ba955630$@co.nz> Hi all I can't find anything that NZIP has produced to help Andy - I have sent him my own inventory from many years ago. If someone has produced a 'core' list of gear I'd be happy to place it on the NZIP site. Cheers David -----Original Message----- From: phys-teach-talk-bounces at nzip.org.nz [mailto:phys-teach-talk-bounces at nzip.org.nz] On Behalf Of andydyson at actrix.co.nz Sent: Sunday, 6 June 2010 9:14 p.m. To: Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz Subject: Fire Hi all, The burned out lab that you saw on the news was the one I have taught in at Kerikeri High School since the start of 2002. We also lost our main prep room and chemical store. A second lab and a couple of classrooms and a long computer room are also badly damaged. The fire brigade asked at 6.30 this morning what was in the chemical store. I reassured them that our radioactive sources were the tiny ones available for school use and comparable to smoke alarms. But we had mercury, a flammable liquids cupboard (which I later found out had exploded!), oxidising agents, acids and bases, flammable solids and poisons. The usual stuff that you would expect in a school chemical store. Our technician was a star. She arrived with a full list of what was there, with quantities, that she had on a flash drive at home. The school records were in the prep room and destroyed. (Hint: take a copy home!) Why did the TV3 news fixate on radioactive materials? I do think there's some sort of phobia! I had brought all this year's NCEA internal assessment stuff home on friday to go through it, along with my laptop and records. But last year's US that I am not using this year (but am/was still due to be moderated on 4 of!) have gone. ALL OF MY EQUIPMENT AND BOOKS HAVE GONE UP IN SMOKE!!! Insurance exists but I don't know yet whether the idea is to replace that lost gear (how much can I remember?) or to equip a new lab for senior Physics from scratch. I hope it's the second option. I'm sure that I have seen lists somewhere of all the gear that it would be sensible to have to teach senior Physics. Can anyone help with such a list as a situation such as this will require answers to be provided for my Principal asap. Anyone been here before and can offer advice? Please reply both to me and the list so everyone can see what is happening. Andy Dyson, HoD Physics, Kerikeri High School. _______________________________________________ Phys-teach-talk mailing list Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz http://nzip.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/phys-teach-talk_nzip.org.nz No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2920 - Release Date: 06/06/10 06:25:00 From andydyson at actrix.co.nz Sun Jun 6 04:48:17 2010 From: andydyson at actrix.co.nz (andydyson at actrix.co.nz) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:48:17 +1200 (NZST) Subject: Fire In-Reply-To: <000501cb0568$e8dc7210$ba955630$@co.nz> References: <9615696c4f7eb21bcf1f52d5e1c06435.squirrel@my.actrix.co.nz> <000501cb0568$e8dc7210$ba955630$@co.nz> Message-ID: <55b2a74866227673e037006adf99c494.squirrel@my.actrix.co.nz> Many thanks David. Really appreciate the inventory which will help spur my memory when going through what was in the cupboards. Andy > Hi all > I can't find anything that NZIP has produced to help Andy - I have sent > him > my own inventory from many years ago. If someone has produced a 'core' > list > of gear I'd be happy to place it on the NZIP site. > Cheers > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: phys-teach-talk-bounces at nzip.org.nz > [mailto:phys-teach-talk-bounces at nzip.org.nz] On Behalf Of > andydyson at actrix.co.nz > Sent: Sunday, 6 June 2010 9:14 p.m. > To: Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz > Subject: Fire > > Hi all, > > The burned out lab that you saw on the news was the one I have taught in > at Kerikeri High School since the start of 2002. We also lost our main > prep room and chemical store. A second lab and a couple of classrooms and > a long computer room are also badly damaged. > The fire brigade asked at 6.30 this morning what was in the chemical > store. I reassured them that our radioactive sources were the tiny ones > available for school use and comparable to smoke alarms. But we had > mercury, a flammable liquids cupboard (which I later found out had > exploded!), oxidising agents, acids and bases, flammable solids and > poisons. The usual stuff that you would expect in a school chemical store. > Our technician was a star. She arrived with a full list of what was there, > with quantities, that she had on a flash drive at home. The school records > were in the prep room and destroyed. (Hint: take a copy home!) Why did the > TV3 news fixate on radioactive materials? I do think there's some sort of > phobia! > > I had brought all this year's NCEA internal assessment stuff home on > friday to go through it, along with my laptop and records. But last year's > US that I am not using this year (but am/was still due to be moderated on > 4 of!) have gone. > > ALL OF MY EQUIPMENT AND BOOKS HAVE GONE UP IN SMOKE!!! > > Insurance exists but I don't know yet whether the idea is to replace that > lost gear (how much can I remember?) or to equip a new lab for senior > Physics from scratch. I hope it's the second option. I'm sure that I have > seen lists somewhere of all the gear that it would be sensible to have to > teach senior Physics. Can anyone help with such a list as a situation such > as this will require answers to be provided for my Principal asap. > > Anyone been here before and can offer advice? > > Please reply both to me and the list so everyone can see what is > happening. > > Andy Dyson, > > HoD Physics, Kerikeri High School. > > > _______________________________________________ > Phys-teach-talk mailing list > Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz > http://nzip.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/phys-teach-talk_nzip.org.nz > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2920 - Release Date: 06/06/10 > 06:25:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > Phys-teach-talk mailing list > Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz > http://nzip.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/phys-teach-talk_nzip.org.nz > From andydyson at actrix.co.nz Sun Jun 6 05:00:59 2010 From: andydyson at actrix.co.nz (andydyson at actrix.co.nz) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 00:00:59 +1200 (NZST) Subject: Fire In-Reply-To: <23A07215CC0B4554AB0B688628995E5B@robert972970e8> References: <9615696c4f7eb21bcf1f52d5e1c06435.squirrel@my.actrix.co.nz> <23A07215CC0B4554AB0B688628995E5B@robert972970e8> Message-ID: <1e050b1935860da244d4c4616fab2c1b.squirrel@my.actrix.co.nz> Thank you for your appreciation of the situation. It is going to be a hell of a challenge. Thankfully we have covered 2.1 and reassessment and the 3.1 (no reassessment - no other 3hr time slot). Only other internal is the 2.7 - straightforward. Hope the rebuilding is prompt and efficient. Andy > Hi Andy, > > What a terrible situation! > > I recall that Trevor Castle, still at PNBHS I believe, circulated a list > of > essential physics gear to all schools (early 90's, so maybe a bit dated) > He > may still have it, or a later version. > > Good luck with your rebuilding / recovery! > > Rob Campbell > > -----Original Message----- > From: phys-teach-talk-bounces at nzip.org.nz > [mailto:phys-teach-talk-bounces at nzip.org.nz] On Behalf Of > andydyson at actrix.co.nz > Sent: Sunday, 6 June 2010 9:14 p.m. > To: Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz > Subject: Fire > > Hi all, > > The burned out lab that you saw on the news was the one I have taught in > at Kerikeri High School since the start of 2002. We also lost our main > prep room and chemical store. A second lab and a couple of classrooms and > a long computer room are also badly damaged. > The fire brigade asked at 6.30 this morning what was in the chemical > store. I reassured them that our radioactive sources were the tiny ones > available for school use and comparable to smoke alarms. But we had > mercury, a flammable liquids cupboard (which I later found out had > exploded!), oxidising agents, acids and bases, flammable solids and > poisons. The usual stuff that you would expect in a school chemical store. > Our technician was a star. She arrived with a full list of what was there, > with quantities, that she had on a flash drive at home. The school records > were in the prep room and destroyed. (Hint: take a copy home!) Why did the > TV3 news fixate on radioactive materials? I do think there's some sort of > phobia! > > I had brought all this year's NCEA internal assessment stuff home on > friday to go through it, along with my laptop and records. But last year's > US that I am not using this year (but am/was still due to be moderated on > 4 of!) have gone. > > ALL OF MY EQUIPMENT AND BOOKS HAVE GONE UP IN SMOKE!!! > > Insurance exists but I don't know yet whether the idea is to replace that > lost gear (how much can I remember?) or to equip a new lab for senior > Physics from scratch. I hope it's the second option. I'm sure that I have > seen lists somewhere of all the gear that it would be sensible to have to > teach senior Physics. Can anyone help with such a list as a situation such > as this will require answers to be provided for my Principal asap. > > Anyone been here before and can offer advice? > > Please reply both to me and the list so everyone can see what is > happening. > > Andy Dyson, > > HoD Physics, Kerikeri High School. > > > _______________________________________________ > Phys-teach-talk mailing list > Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz > http://nzip.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/phys-teach-talk_nzip.org.nz > > From gbatch at clear.net.nz Sun Jun 6 17:20:33 2010 From: gbatch at clear.net.nz (Graham Batchelor) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 12:20:33 +1200 Subject: Fire Message-ID: <4c0c3b51.101.a4b.3310@clear.net.nz> Hi Andy - sorry to hear the news. Not sure what state our inventry of physics gear is in - I think we did have something updated a few years ago when we were building. Will have a look Tuesday when I get back. You sure have an efficient system with you techo having that chemical store on memory stick at home. Well done on that. It is a reminder to us all really. Batch ----- Original Message Follows ----- > Thank you for your appreciation of the situation. It is > going to be a hell of a challenge. Thankfully we have > covered 2.1 and reassessment and the 3.1 (no reassessment > - no other 3hr time slot). Only other internal is the 2.7 > - straightforward. > > Hope the rebuilding is prompt and efficient. > > Andy > > > > > > > Hi Andy, > > > > What a terrible situation! > > > > I recall that Trevor Castle, still at PNBHS I believe, > > circulated a list of > > essential physics gear to all schools (early 90's, so > > maybe a bit dated) He > > may still have it, or a later version. > > > > Good luck with your rebuilding / recovery! > > > > Rob Campbell > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: phys-teach-talk-bounces at nzip.org.nz > > [mailto:phys-teach-talk-bounces at nzip.org.nz] On Behalf > > Of andydyson at actrix.co.nz > > Sent: Sunday, 6 June 2010 9:14 p.m. > > To: Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz > > Subject: Fire > > > > Hi all, > > > > The burned out lab that you saw on the news was the one > > I have taught in at Kerikeri High School since the start > > of 2002. We also lost our main prep room and chemical > > store. A second lab and a couple of classrooms and a > > long computer room are also badly damaged. The fire > brigade asked at 6.30 this morning what was in the > > chemical store. I reassured them that our radioactive > > sources were the tiny ones available for school use and > > comparable to smoke alarms. But we had mercury, a > > flammable liquids cupboard (which I later found out had > exploded!), oxidising agents, acids and bases, flammable > > solids and poisons. The usual stuff that you would > > expect in a school chemical store. Our technician was a > > star. She arrived with a full list of what was there, > with quantities, that she had on a flash drive at home. > > The school records were in the prep room and destroyed. > > (Hint: take a copy home!) Why did the TV3 news fixate on > > radioactive materials? I do think there's some sort of > phobia! > > > I had brought all this year's NCEA internal assessment > > stuff home on friday to go through it, along with my > > laptop and records. But last year's US that I am not > > using this year (but am/was still due to be moderated on > 4 of!) have gone. > > > ALL OF MY EQUIPMENT AND BOOKS HAVE GONE UP IN SMOKE!!! > > > > Insurance exists but I don't know yet whether the idea > > is to replace that lost gear (how much can I remember?) > > or to equip a new lab for senior Physics from scratch. I > > hope it's the second option. I'm sure that I have seen > lists somewhere of all the gear that it would be sensible > > to have to teach senior Physics. Can anyone help with > > such a list as a situation such as this will require > answers to be provided for my Principal asap. > > > Anyone been here before and can offer advice? > > > > Please reply both to me and the list so everyone can see > > what is happening. > > > > Andy Dyson, > > > > HoD Physics, Kerikeri High School. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phys-teach-talk mailing list > > Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz > > > http://nzip.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/phys-teach-talk_nzip.org.nz > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phys-teach-talk mailing list > Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz > http://nzip.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/phys-teach-talk_nzip.org.nz From bpantry at carmel.school.nz Sun Jun 6 16:59:00 2010 From: bpantry at carmel.school.nz (Bev Pantry) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 11:59:00 +1200 Subject: Fire In-Reply-To: <9615696c4f7eb21bcf1f52d5e1c06435.squirrel@my.actrix.co.nz> References: <9615696c4f7eb21bcf1f52d5e1c06435.squirrel@my.actrix.co.nz> Message-ID: Hi Andy, I really feel for you - hopefully long term it will be worth it (ie a nice new lab and equipment). I have attached a list that we used (from NZIP) as a guide when we kitted out our new lab - it is something to start on, but I will check tomorrow at school if there is a comprehensive up to date list. Regards Bev Pantry HOD Science Hi Andy, I really feel for you - hopefully long term it will be worth it (ie a nice new lab and equipment). I have attached a list that we used as a guide when we kitted out our new lab - it is something to start on, but I will check tomorrow at school if ther Bev Pantry HOD Science On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 9:13 PM, wrote: > Hi all, > > The burned out lab that you saw on the news was the one I have taught in > at Kerikeri High School since the start of 2002. We also lost our main > prep room and chemical store. A second lab and a couple of classrooms and > a long computer room are also badly damaged. > The fire brigade asked at 6.30 this morning what was in the chemical > store. I reassured them that our radioactive sources were the tiny ones > available for school use and comparable to smoke alarms. But we had > mercury, a flammable liquids cupboard (which I later found out had > exploded!), oxidising agents, acids and bases, flammable solids and > poisons. The usual stuff that you would expect in a school chemical store. > Our technician was a star. She arrived with a full list of what was there, > with quantities, that she had on a flash drive at home. The school records > were in the prep room and destroyed. (Hint: take a copy home!) Why did the > TV3 news fixate on radioactive materials? I do think there's some sort of > phobia! > > I had brought all this year's NCEA internal assessment stuff home on > friday to go through it, along with my laptop and records. But last year's > US that I am not using this year (but am/was still due to be moderated on > 4 of!) have gone. > > ALL OF MY EQUIPMENT AND BOOKS HAVE GONE UP IN SMOKE!!! > > Insurance exists but I don't know yet whether the idea is to replace that > lost gear (how much can I remember?) or to equip a new lab for senior > Physics from scratch. I hope it's the second option. I'm sure that I have > seen lists somewhere of all the gear that it would be sensible to have to > teach senior Physics. Can anyone help with such a list as a situation such > as this will require answers to be provided for my Principal asap. > > Anyone been here before and can offer advice? > > Please reply both to me and the list so everyone can see what is happening. > > Andy Dyson, > > HoD Physics, Kerikeri High School. > > > _______________________________________________ > Phys-teach-talk mailing list > Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz > http://nzip.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/phys-teach-talk_nzip.org.nz > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Walt Walt Rutgers BSc(Physics), Dip Tchg(sec) Programme Manager and Education Lecturer Graduate Diploma of Teaching (secondary) Eastern Institute of Technology (Co-joint with Massey University College of Education) Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences EASTERN INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY Gloucester Street, Private Bag 1201, Taradale, New Zealand Telephone 06 974800 ext 5005 Facsimile 06 9748910 Mobile : 027 6575271 Web: www.eit.ac.nz -----Original Message----- From: phys-teach-talk-bounces at nzip.org.nz on behalf of David Housden Sent: Sun 06/06/2010 23:10 To: Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz Subject: RE: Fire Hi all I can't find anything that NZIP has produced to help Andy - I have sent him my own inventory from many years ago. If someone has produced a 'core' list of gear I'd be happy to place it on the NZIP site. Cheers David -----Original Message----- From: phys-teach-talk-bounces at nzip.org.nz [mailto:phys-teach-talk-bounces at nzip.org.nz] On Behalf Of andydyson at actrix.co.nz Sent: Sunday, 6 June 2010 9:14 p.m. To: Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz Subject: Fire Hi all, The burned out lab that you saw on the news was the one I have taught in at Kerikeri High School since the start of 2002. We also lost our main prep room and chemical store. A second lab and a couple of classrooms and a long computer room are also badly damaged. The fire brigade asked at 6.30 this morning what was in the chemical store. I reassured them that our radioactive sources were the tiny ones available for school use and comparable to smoke alarms. But we had mercury, a flammable liquids cupboard (which I later found out had exploded!), oxidising agents, acids and bases, flammable solids and poisons. The usual stuff that you would expect in a school chemical store. Our technician was a star. She arrived with a full list of what was there, with quantities, that she had on a flash drive at home. The school records were in the prep room and destroyed. (Hint: take a copy home!) Why did the TV3 news fixate on radioactive materials? I do think there's some sort of phobia! I had brought all this year's NCEA internal assessment stuff home on friday to go through it, along with my laptop and records. But last year's US that I am not using this year (but am/was still due to be moderated on 4 of!) have gone. ALL OF MY EQUIPMENT AND BOOKS HAVE GONE UP IN SMOKE!!! Insurance exists but I don't know yet whether the idea is to replace that lost gear (how much can I remember?) or to equip a new lab for senior Physics from scratch. I hope it's the second option. I'm sure that I have seen lists somewhere of all the gear that it would be sensible to have to teach senior Physics. Can anyone help with such a list as a situation such as this will require answers to be provided for my Principal asap. Anyone been here before and can offer advice? Please reply both to me and the list so everyone can see what is happening. Andy Dyson, HoD Physics, Kerikeri High School. _______________________________________________ Phys-teach-talk mailing list Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz http://nzip.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/phys-teach-talk_nzip.org.nz No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2920 - Release Date: 06/06/10 06:25:00 _______________________________________________ Phys-teach-talk mailing list Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz http://nzip.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/phys-teach-talk_nzip.org.nz This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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Regards Walt Walt Rutgers BSc(Physics), Dip Tchg(sec) Programme Manager and Education Lecturer Graduate Diploma of Teaching (secondary) Eastern Institute of Technology (Co-joint with Massey University College of Education) Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences EASTERN INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY Gloucester Street, Private Bag 1201, Taradale, New Zealand Telephone 06 974800 ext 5005 Facsimile 06 9748910 Mobile : 027 6575271 Web: www.eit.ac.nz -----Original Message----- From: phys-teach-talk-bounces at nzip.org.nz on behalf of andydyson at actrix.co.nz Sent: Sun 06/06/2010 21:13 To: Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz Subject: Fire Hi all, The burned out lab that you saw on the news was the one I have taught in at Kerikeri High School since the start of 2002. We also lost our main prep room and chemical store. A second lab and a couple of classrooms and a long computer room are also badly damaged. The fire brigade asked at 6.30 this morning what was in the chemical store. I reassured them that our radioactive sources were the tiny ones available for school use and comparable to smoke alarms. But we had mercury, a flammable liquids cupboard (which I later found out had exploded!), oxidising agents, acids and bases, flammable solids and poisons. The usual stuff that you would expect in a school chemical store. Our technician was a star. She arrived with a full list of what was there, with quantities, that she had on a flash drive at home. The school records were in the prep room and destroyed. (Hint: take a copy home!) Why did the TV3 news fixate on radioactive materials? I do think there's some sort of phobia! I had brought all this year's NCEA internal assessment stuff home on friday to go through it, along with my laptop and records. But last year's US that I am not using this year (but am/was still due to be moderated on 4 of!) have gone. ALL OF MY EQUIPMENT AND BOOKS HAVE GONE UP IN SMOKE!!! Insurance exists but I don't know yet whether the idea is to replace that lost gear (how much can I remember?) or to equip a new lab for senior Physics from scratch. I hope it's the second option. I'm sure that I have seen lists somewhere of all the gear that it would be sensible to have to teach senior Physics. Can anyone help with such a list as a situation such as this will require answers to be provided for my Principal asap. Anyone been here before and can offer advice? Please reply both to me and the list so everyone can see what is happening. Andy Dyson, HoD Physics, Kerikeri High School. _______________________________________________ Phys-teach-talk mailing list Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz http://nzip.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/phys-teach-talk_nzip.org.nz This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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Name: Physics Equipment List.doc Type: application/msword Size: 52224 bytes Desc: Physics Equipment List.doc URL: From parkerprice at clear.net.nz Mon Jun 7 11:18:48 2010 From: parkerprice at clear.net.nz (Parker-Price) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 06:18:48 +1200 Subject: Fire In-Reply-To: <9615696c4f7eb21bcf1f52d5e1c06435.squirrel@my.actrix.co.nz> References: <9615696c4f7eb21bcf1f52d5e1c06435.squirrel@my.actrix.co.nz> Message-ID: Hi Andy So sorry to hear your news. I hope the Ministry, the school board, the community, the school staff and the students pull together to put things right. If it's any help, I have been busy devising experiments for students that require minimal specialist physics kit. Please contact me at the Te Kura address if you would like me to share some suggestions. cheers Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 9:13 PM Subject: Fire > Hi all, > > The burned out lab that you saw on the news was the one I have taught in > at Kerikeri High School since the start of 2002. We also lost our main > prep room and chemical store. A second lab and a couple of classrooms and > a long computer room are also badly damaged. > The fire brigade asked at 6.30 this morning what was in the chemical > store. I reassured them that our radioactive sources were the tiny ones > available for school use and comparable to smoke alarms. But we had > mercury, a flammable liquids cupboard (which I later found out had > exploded!), oxidising agents, acids and bases, flammable solids and > poisons. The usual stuff that you would expect in a school chemical store. > Our technician was a star. She arrived with a full list of what was there, > with quantities, that she had on a flash drive at home. The school records > were in the prep room and destroyed. (Hint: take a copy home!) Why did the > TV3 news fixate on radioactive materials? I do think there's some sort of > phobia! > > I had brought all this year's NCEA internal assessment stuff home on > friday to go through it, along with my laptop and records. But last year's > US that I am not using this year (but am/was still due to be moderated on > 4 of!) have gone. > > ALL OF MY EQUIPMENT AND BOOKS HAVE GONE UP IN SMOKE!!! > > Insurance exists but I don't know yet whether the idea is to replace that > lost gear (how much can I remember?) or to equip a new lab for senior > Physics from scratch. I hope it's the second option. I'm sure that I have > seen lists somewhere of all the gear that it would be sensible to have to > teach senior Physics. Can anyone help with such a list as a situation such > as this will require answers to be provided for my Principal asap. > > Anyone been here before and can offer advice? > > Please reply both to me and the list so everyone can see what is > happening. > > Andy Dyson, > > HoD Physics, Kerikeri High School. > > > _______________________________________________ > Phys-teach-talk mailing list > Phys-teach-talk at nzip.org.nz > http://nzip.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/phys-teach-talk_nzip.org.nz From Owen.Watson at royalsociety.org.nz Mon Jun 7 14:29:43 2010 From: Owen.Watson at royalsociety.org.nz (Owen Watson) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:29:43 +1200 Subject: List changes to phys-teach-talk Message-ID: <60AD28B0581F38418917B12112D76A810C6FD3AD12@mail.rsnz.local> There's been a few messages rejected because they were over the 60K limit. I've now upped the limit to 100K. 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URL: From andydyson at actrix.co.nz Mon Jun 14 17:49:54 2010 From: andydyson at actrix.co.nz (andydyson at actrix.co.nz) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:49:54 +1200 (NZST) Subject: videos Message-ID: Hi all, Can anyone help? In Kerikeri we are slowly coming to terms with the aftermath of our arson attack. Our main store of videos and DVD's was in the prep room which was destroyed. The newer ones can be replaced via the insurance claim but there were a number of older videos that were invaluable and are not available now to buy. What we are wondering is if any of you have some recommended videos that you think are now unavailable to buy, could we borrow them and get them copied onto DVD and then return them to you with a DVD copy. The address is Kerikeri High School, Hone Heke Road, Kerikeri, Northland, 0245. Care of Andy Dyson / Physics Regards, Andy Dyson From francis.Bryden at stcuthberts.school.nz Tue Jun 29 15:33:43 2010 From: francis.Bryden at stcuthberts.school.nz (Bryden, Francis) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:33:43 +1200 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <6AC36C5F0F8E364CBEC8178DD499F3EF0120D164B528@stcc-exchange.stcuthberts.local> Hi everyone, not sure if any of you have noticed this. The level 1 physics standard on waves states: "reflection at a plane surface, reflection and refraction at a straight boundary" reflection is mentioned in two contexts. I interpret the second part as meaning reflection and refraction of wavefronts rather than rays. i.e. ripple tanks etc. Can anyone clarify this? Thanks, ........ 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